November 1921

Nov-01-21/1

Griffith shows the other members of the Irish delegation a draft of the letter of personal assurance that he was going to send to Llyod George following their one-to-one meeting on October 30th.

The crucial clauses were “provided that I was satisfied on every point” (including the “essential unity” of Ireland), then “I was prepared to recommend recognition of the Crown, the formula in which this recognition was to be couched to be arrived at a later stage.  I similarly agreed to recommend free partnership with the British Commonwealth, the formula defining the partnership to be arrived at in a later discussion”. 

Barton and Gavan Duffy angrily protested against the letter (and Childers more discreetly given that he was not a member of the delegation).  Their meeting dispersed without reaching agreement.

See Nov-02-21/1

 

Curran J M (1980), pgs 96-97; Pakenham (1967), pgs 160-161

Nov-02-21/1

The Irish delegation meet at 9.00am to discuss Griffith’s letter to Llyod George. 

Gavan Duffy had drafted a long memorandum it which he criticised Griffith’s letter on a number of points.  Despite being irritated, Griffith agreed to re-draft the letter.

He agreed that it should come from the full delegation and, on the crucial issue of recognition of the Crown, he changed the wording to “I was, on the same condition, prepared to recommend that Ireland should consent to a recognition of the Crown as head of the proposed Association of Free States” (This closely followed the Irish memorandum of October 29th.)

Pakenham notes that this “change was considerable.  It substituted for the recognition of the Crown in undefined terms mutually acceptable to both countries, a recognition on the lines of the Irish proposal of the 29th (which it virtually reproduced).  From the English point of view, this was External Association once again raising its hydra head”. (Italics in original.)

 

Curran J M (1980), pgs 96-97; Pakenham (1967), pgs 161-162

Nov-02-21/2

Griffith’s Letter of Undertakings

Griffith and Collins meet with Birkenhead in his office in the British House of Lords at midday to discuss Griffith's letter (which, as noted, was now coming from the full delegation).  Birkenhead tries to get Griffith and Collins to make changes to the letter on the Crown and Empire passages but they do not agree. 

Griffith and Collins had a further meeting at 6.45pm with Llyod George and Birkenhead (and possibly Chamberlain).  The meeting lasted two hours. The British delegates got Griffith and Collins to agree to a number of changes to the letter.  The two most important were (1) the phrase describing Ireland's association with the Commonwealth as a "free partnership with the British Commonwealth" was changed to “free partnership of Ireland with the other states associated within the British Commonwealth" and that he was prepared “to recommend that Ireland should consent to the recognition of the Crown as head of the proposed association of free States”  (2) the Irish position on Ulster which ruled out any association if unity was denied was changed to “I stated that this attitude of mine was conditional on the recognition of the essential unity of Ireland”.

With some effort, Griffith got the consent of the full delegation to the changes (Barton and Gavan Duffy only giving consent reluctantly) and it was sent to Llyod George 11.00pm on the evening of November 2nd. 

The full text of letter is given in Macardle. (Even though Griffith got the consent of the full delegation to the letter, he still wrote it in the first person.)

Griffith sends the letter to de Valera the following day - See Nov-03-21/1

Macardle says that Barton and Gavan Duffy (and Childers) considered resigning but did not as they believed the final decision would rest with the cabinet in Dublin.  Gavan Duffy subsequently went to Dublin to protest to de Valera about only Griffith and Collins negotiating with the British but de Valera declines to intervene – see Nov-04-21/1. 

Comment

 

Curran J M (1980), pg 97; Macardle (1999), pgs 555-556; Pakenham (1967), pgs 162-163

Nov-02-21/3

Arthur Balfour goes to Washington for a naval conference “lest his presence in London disrupt the [ongoing] negotiations”. (Fanning suggests that Llyod George was getting Balfour ‘out of the way’.) 

Llyod George also tried to get Bonar Law to go but the latter refused when he learned that Llyod George was to stay behind to manage the Irish negotiations. 

 

Fanning (2013), pgs 54 & 289; Matthews (2004), pg 45

Nov-03-21/1

Griffith sends his letter to de Valera

Griffith sends a copy of his letter of November 2nd to de Valera.  He said that he accepted the clause “Free partnership of Ireland with the other states associated within the British Commonwealth" as it “did not alter the essence of the formula”.  De Valera passed it onto his cabinet. Pakenham noted that no one disputed Griffith’s contention that the Empire clause “did not alter the essence of the formula”.  (Pakenham disagrees – see Comment to Nov-02-21/2.)

 

Griffith also says that the British were now satisfied to face the “Ulster” question on what was in the letter and “assure me that if “Ulster” proves unreasonable they are prepared to rather resign than use force against us”.

Comment

 

 

Pakenham (1967), pgs 163-166; Fanning (2013), pg 290; Macardle (1999), pg 557; Matthews (2004), pgs 44-45

Nov-03-21/2

Birkenhead meets with Griffith and Collins at 11.00am and Birkenhead thanks them for the letter of assurance and says the British intend to talk to Craig to dissuade him from opposing efforts to secure Irish unity. 

Griffith outlines to de Valera the main outcomes of this meeting as follows:

(1) The British highly appreciated the letter as a “document upon which they could deal with Craig”;

(2) That before Craig was sent for they wished to see Bonar Law and Carson and dissuade them from opposition and

(3) “if Ulster proved unreasonable they are prepared to resign rather than use force on us In such an event no English Government is capable of formation on a war policy against Ireland”.

(See Nov-03-21/1 for Fanning’s and Pakenham’s comments on the likelihood of members of the British cabinet resigning.)

 

Curran J M (1980), pgs 97- 98; Pakenham (1967), pg 164

Nov-03-21/3

The London Times quotes “usually well-informed sources” as saying that “Sinn Féin is prepared to abandon its claim to independence”.

Kenny says that “the British had ostensibly leaked a truncated version of Griffith’s letter of 2 November”. 

 

Kenny (2021), pg 68

Nov-03-21/4

George Riddell records in his diary that Llyod George said that “Sinn Fein are prepared to accept allegiance to the Crown and agree that Ireland shall remain part of the Empire”. 

Riddell goes to write that Llyod George says that the above is dependent on “Tyrone and Fermanagh being joined to Southern Ireland, or at any rate a plebiscite, and subject also to Irish fiscal, postal, telegraphic arrangements being delegated to a central Parliament to be elected on the basis of population.” Llyod George is quoted as saying that “The prospect is very awkward”.

 

Pakenham (1967), pg 165

Nov-03-21/5

Macready writes to Wilson saying that it would be insane to go to war “merely if Ulster objects to a plebiscite in Tyrone and Fermanagh”.

 

Matthews (2004), pg 45

Nov-04-21/1

Gavan Duffy goes to Dublin (at Barton’s and Childers’ request) and complains to de Valera about Griffith and Collins negotiating with the British on their own but de Valera does not intervene.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 557; Curran J M (1980), pg 976

Nov-05-21/1

Llyod George meets with Craig in London in which he tries to persuade him to have the Northern Ireland parliament subordinate to an All-Ireland parliament.  Craig at first seems receptive to an All-Ireland parliament. 

However, the following day, Craig goes to the War Office and extracted crucial security concessions from Worthington Evans (Secretary of State for War) and Henry Wilson (Chief of the Imperial Staff).  Essentially, Craig was given control of the RIC and the Special Constabulary to maintain order.  

After his success at the War Office, Craig goes to Downing St and rejects any idea of an all-Ireland parliament.  He also refuses to countenance any diminution of the six county area.  In this declaration, he is supported by Carson and Bonar Law.  The latter’s support was critical. 

Chamberlain told his wife a few days later that “B. L. is rampaging” and “seeing red on the subject of Ulster”.  Chamberlain was also worried about the loyalty of Tory members of the British Cabinet (such as Curzon, Worthington-Evans and Baldwin) and concerned that they would side with Bonar Law. 

According to Fanning, “A despairing Llyod George, more depressed than at any time since the conference had begun, finally accepted that Craig would ‘not budge an inch’; he told Tom Jones to prepare Griffith and Collins for the break-up of the conference.”  This is a very odd statement from Fanning as there would seem to be no evidence that, at any point, that he was going to put pressure on Craig especially since he gave away his main card (the transfer of executive power to the Northern Ireland government) and his Secretary of State for War (nominally under Llyod George in his cabinet) had just handed over security powers to the Northern Ireland government.  Craig had got nearly everything he wanted so had no need to make concessions.

  

Macardle (1999), pg 557; Curran J M (1980), pg 99; Phoenix (1994), pg 151; Fanning (2013), pgs 290-292; Matthews (2004), pgs 45-46; Pakenham (1967), pg 167

Nov-07-21/1

Despite (according to Fanning) his ‘despairing’ state, talking to Tom Jones, Llyod George says that the only alternative to the breakdown of negotiations and his resignation (as he had promised Griffith that he would resign if he could not deliver unity) was Dominion status for the 26 counties and status quo for the six counties with boundary revisions (via a commission). Craig’s government would retain the powers granted to it by the Government of Ireland Act as well as representation in the Imperial parliament. However, it would have to bear a higher proportion of taxation than the South.

Llyod George charges Jones with finding out from Collins and Griffith if they would agree to this proposal (which Jones did the next day) - see Nov-08-21/1.

 

Curran J M (1980), pg 102; Fanning (2013), pg 292; Matthews (2004), pg 46

Nov-07

IRA Volunteer, Henry McKigney, is accidently shot dead at Fathom Lane, Newry, Co. Down.

O’Halpin and Ó Corráin (2020), pg 535

Nov-08-21/1

Tom Jones puts the idea of a Boundary Commission to Collins and Griffith as his own idea.  Collins does not like it “at all because it sacrificed unity entirely” but Griffith “was not alarmed”.

Jones also pointed out to Griffith and Collins that, if Llyod George resigned, Bonar Law might then form a militarist government which would coerce Southern Ireland. Jones says that he will sound out Llyod George (on what was the prime minister’s own idea) and get back to them the next day.

Griffith writes to de Valera saying that the Boundary Commission would give South most of Tyrone, Fermanagh, and part of Armagh, Down, etc.  He said that Llyod George was asking Craig to choose between a full Six County area with a parliament subordinate to an All-Ireland parliament or a sub-division (probably minus Tyrone, Fermanagh, etc.) with its own parliament [presumably subordinate to Westminster because Griffith wrote that “Llyod George would give no further powers than what was possessed under the present Act to the area that remained obdurate after the boundary Commission had completed its work”]. 

Griffith also says to de Valera that “We did not give any definite opinion on the matter. It is their look-out for the moment. Jones is to see us again tomorrow.” Griffith goes on to say that “the Conference may end with this week.  If so, all policy dictates that it should end on the note of Ulster being impossibilist in order to throw the Dominions against her”.

Tom Jones also records in his diary Llyod George as saying “Curzon, L. W.-E. and Baldwin, they will all go over to Bonar if the opportunity comes”.

Also, on this day, Lionel Curtis (as Secretary to the British Delegation) delivered a memorandum to his own side outlining a way forward – this memo includes the idea of a boundary commission.

 

Macardle (1999), pgs 557-558; Curran J M (1980), pg 102; Fanning (2013), pgs 293-294; Matthews (2004), pg 46; Kenny (2021), pg 73 and 110-118; Pakenham (1967), pg 168

Nov-08-21/2

Authorities relax curfew restrictions in Belfast – curfew to start at 11.30pm

 

Parkinson (2004), pg 167

Nov-09-21/1

Transfer of Powers to NI Government

A transfer of executive power to the Northern Ireland government under section 69 of the Government of Ireland Act 1920 takes places by means of two orders in council made by the British king.  This was to come into effect on November 22nd – See Nov-22-21/2.

Quoting McColgan, Fanning says “ ‘Partition was now legally complete’ and Llyod George’s room for manoeuvre in his dealings with the Northern Ireland government correspondingly diminished”. 

Question

 

Fanning (2013), pg 288

Nov-09-21/2

De Valera (who had not written to the Irish delegation since October 30th) writes back to Griffith acknowledging the move to isolate the unionists and how ‘admirably’ the delegation had managed to ensure that any possible breakdown would focus on Ulster’s position rather than on Sinn Féin’s objections to the new state being bound to the British Empire and British Crown. 

However, he warns against giving any further ground on the ‘Crown and Empire’ connection. He writes “The danger is now that we shall be tempted, in order to put them more hopelessly in the wrong, to make further advances on our side. I think, that as far as Crown-Empire connection is concerned, we should not budge a single inch from the point to which the negotiations have now led us.” 

De Valera makes no mention of the Boundary Commission which Griffith had wrote to him about the previous day (Nov-08-21/1) – perhaps he had not received the letter.  Griffith writes again to de Valera about the Boundary Commission idea on November 9th – see Nov-09-21/3.

See also Nov-11-21/3.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 559; Kenny (2021), pgs 70-71; Pakenham (1967), pgs 168-169

Nov-09-21/3

Jones meets with Griffith and Duggan at the Grosvenor Hotel.

Jones tells them that Llyod George was going to secure cabinet approval against Ulster the next day but before he did he wanted to play ‘one absolutely last card’. 

He wanted to put to Craig the proposal of a boundary commission (which Jones had spoken to Griffith and Collins about on November 8th) and if the unionists refused this offer then they could be portrayed as unreasonable in trying to coerce areas that had majorities that wished to be under a Dublin government.

Jones also pointed out to Griffith that, what remained of Northern Ireland (after the work of a boundary commission) would find itself handcuffed by the terms of the 1920 Act (and “would have to bear itself its proportion of British taxation”).  Jones asked Griffith and Duggan if they would stand behind such a proposal, if Ulster accepted.

According to Jones, Griffith replied that “It is not our proposal, but if the Prime Minister cares to make it we would not make his position impossible. We cannot give him a pledge but we will not turn him down on it.  He are not going to queer his pitch. We would prefer a plebiscite, but in essentials a Boundary Commission is very much the same.  It would not have to be for Fermanagh and Tyrone only but for the six counties.”

On the evening of November 9th, Griffith wrote to de Valera informing him that “Llyod George proposes … a Boundary Commission to delimit the six county area be established so as to give us the districts in which we are a majority. … The move was a tactical one to deprive “Ulster” of support in England by showing it was utterly unreasonable in insisting to coerce areas that wished to get out. He asked if we would stand behind such a proposal. We said that it would be their proposal – not ours, and we would not, therefore, be bound by it but we realised the value as a tactical manoeuvre and if Llyod George made it we would not queer his position.” 

Pakenham says by agreeing not to queer his pitch, Griffith had “released Llyod George from his obligation to secure an all-Ireland Parliament or resign.  Llyod George was making light of the grip which had cost Griffith so much to fasten him on”.

When Llyod George heard back from Jones on his conversation with Griffith and Duggan, it increased his optimism. Llyod George called a meeting of the British delegation on the morning of November10th – See Nov-10-21/2. 

However, Jones recorded in his diary that Llyod George insisted that a boundary commission must cover all nine Ulster counties - See Nov-10-21/3.

 

Curran J M (1980), pgs 103-104; Fanning (2013), pg 294; Matthews (2004), pg 46-47; Kenny (2021), pgs 73-74; Pakenham (1967), pgs 169-171

Nov-09-21/4

BA soldier, Albert Sargent, dies after being kicked by a horse in the Curragh, Co. Kildare.

O’Halpin and Ó Corráin (2020), pg 556

Nov-10-21/1

Having left Hamburg on October 28th, Charlie McGuinness sailed the Frieda into Waterford Harbour. 

He had got held up by bad weather and fog near Helvick Head.  This meant that he couldn’t give the agreed signal. 

He moored the Frieda behind an island and rowed ashore.  He went in search of local Sinn Féin leader, Dr Vincent White. 

After a bit of convincing, White accompanied McGuinness to view the cargo of the Frieda.  White then organised to have the cargo unloaded and sent a message to Pax Whelan who sent cars to pick up the guns and ammunition and bring them to Keatings of Kilrossanty in the Comeragh mountains. 

From Keatings, they were distributed to the Southern and Midlands Divisions of the IRA.

 

McCarthy (2015), pgs 93-94

Nov-10-21/2

Bonar Law meets with Llyod George early in the morning of November 10th.

Bonar Law tells him that he could not coerce Ulster and save the Liberal-Conservative Coalition at the same time.  Instead, he recommends to Llyod George “Don’t confine your bullying to Ulster.  Try it on the Sinn Feiners too.” 

He says to Llyod George that he should tell the Irish delegation that he has been unable to win any concessions from Craig and invite them to accept dominion government in the “knowledge that it would be in Ulster’s material interest eventually to join with the South”.  (Why exactly Bonar Law thought that it would be in their material interest is not made clear.)

The British delegation meets later in the morning.  According to Curran, Llyod George tables a draft letter to Craig which tries to introduce financial disadvantages for the Unionists if they stay out of an all-Ireland parliament but the Tory unionists on the delegation (such as Worthington-Evans and Chamberlain) were having none of it.  The former said that “Ulster was to get all her powers under the 1920 Act and therefore there could be no change in the matter of finance.”  Chamberlain complained about the use of florid language in the draft letter and said to Llyod George “we were now not writing to Celts but Anglo-Saxons”.

The draft letter to Craig was revised. It explained the settlement towards which the British Government had been working.  It said that the settlement envisaged had, as a first principle, that Ireland had an explicit allegiance to the Throne and that it was a member of the Empire.  It also envisaged an all-Ireland Parliament and asked Craig to come into conference.

The letter was shown to the British cabinet in the afternoon.   After the cabinet meeting, Llyod George sent the letter to Craig. 

See Nov-11-21/1 for Craig’s reply.

 

 

Fanning (2013), pgs 295-296; Curran J M (1980), pg 100; Matthews (2004), pgs 47-51; Boyce (1972), pg 159; Pakenham (1967), pg 171-173

Nov-10-21/3

As seen above (Nov-09-21/3), Griffith insisted that Llyod George’s proposal for a boundary commission must cover all six counties and not just Fermanagh and Tyrone.  As also noted, Llyod George was pleased when Jones reported to him on the evening of November 9th about his conversation with Griffith and Duggan but Jones recorded in his diary that Llyod George insisted that a boundary commission must cover all nine Ulster counties.  

After a late night meeting of the truce committee on November 10th, Jones informed Duggan the next day that Llyod George had in mind that “a Boundary Commission should apply not only to the 6 Counties only but to the 9 Counties of Ulster”.  According to Jones, Duggan did not object.  Jones also says that he asked Duggan to tell this piece of information to Griffith.  (Kenny notes that “It is not known if Duggan did so”.) 

Jones also claimed, in his diary, that he informed Griffith that the commission would cover all nine Ulster counties (i.e. could add to as well as subtract territory from Northern Ireland).  However, Griffith does not mention this in his correspondence over the next few days with de Valera. 

 

Kenny (2021), pg 74

Nov-11-21/1

IRA Volunteer, Daniel Clancy, who was interned in Spike Island dies of appendicitis in the Central Medical Hospital in Cork.  His parents maintain that his illness arose from the brutal treatment that he received. 

 

O’Halpin and Ó Corráin (2020), pg 535; O’Farrell (1997), pg 103 & 105

Nov-11-21/2

Craig, after consulting his Northern Ireland cabinet, replies to Llyod George’s letter of November 10th rejecting coming under an All-Ireland parliament and rejecting any revision of the Six County boundaries. 

He says (according to Griffith) that “So long as the suggestion of the [British] Government contains a reference to the establishment of an all-Ireland Parliament, they feel it would be impossible for them to meet in conference on the subject”

Also, Craig proposes that the North as well as the South be given Dominion status on a basis of equality with the South (without explicitly saying Dominion status).  The latter meant, of course, the end of the United Kingdom. But the Unionists were willing to see this as they seen “the loss of representation at Westminster as less evil than inclusion in an All-Ireland Parliament”.  See Nov-14-21/2.

(Macardle says November 12th – it would appear from Pakenham that Craig sent a short reply on November 11th and the detailed reply on the 12th – it will be referred to as Craig’s letter of November 12th.)

 

 

Macardle (1999), pg 560; Curran J M (1980), pg 101 & 105; Fanning (2013), pg 296; Matthews (2004), pgs 48-48; Boyce (1972), pg 160; Pakenham (1967), pgs 171-173

 

Nov-11-21/3

Griffith replies to de Valera’s letter of November 9th. 

He tells de Valera of Llyod George letter to Craig of November 10th and also of Craig’s reply (see Nov-11-21/2).  He says that “The ‘Ulster’ crowd are in the pit that they digged for us, and if we keep them there we’ll have England and the Dominions out against them in the next week or two”.

He also informs de Valera that Chamberlain was to speak in favour of an Irish settlement at the forthcoming National Unionist conference in Liverpool on November 17th and reported that Chamberlain had said the previous evening that the Irish delegation were “straightforward, honourable men” whose word he was ready to take.

 

Curran J M (1980), pg 105 & 310; Pakenham (1967), pgs 172-173

Nov-12-21/1

Collins writes to de Valera saying that “No progress has been made since last weekend”.  

Andy Cope advises the Irish delegation that there would be no progress until after the Conservative Party conference in Liverpool on November 17th.

 

Fanning (2013), pg 296

Nov-12-21/2

Bonar Law in a letter to the editor of The Scotsman says he would resist British Government attempts to coerce Ulster and that he felt that Ulster was as much part of Britain as Scotland. 

Basically, his position was that if Ulster is not forced into an all-Ireland parliament then Sinn Féin can govern their “own part of Ireland” as they please as long as they “form a constitution within the Empire and behave decently to Protestants there and make no attempt against Ulster”. 

Subsequently Bonar Law met with Llyod George and was sufficiently reassured to abandon any thoughts of leading a revolt at the Liverpool meeting.

 

Curran J M (1980), pg 99; Fanning (2013), pgs 296-298

Nov-12-21/3

Jones and Griffith meet in the morning at 22 Hans Place.

In the afternoon, Llyod George and Griffith meet for lunch in the house of Llyod George’s parliamentary private secretary Philip Sassoon at 25 Park Lane.

Griffith is shown (or, according to Pakenham given a ‘hurried’ reading of) the Llyod George – Craig correspondence of November 10th and 11th/12th.  Griffith later says that he understood that all members of the British Cabinet were astounded at Craig’s proposal that Northern Ireland should be made a Dominion and should pay none except voluntary contributions to England.

Llyod George now says that, after Craig’s refusal to join an all-Ireland state under any circumstance, he wishes to make a proposal to Craig that there would be an all-Ireland Parliament but that Ulster would have the right to remove itself from its jurisdiction.  However, if Northern Ireland chose to withdraw, then a boundary commission would delimit its area to make the boundary conform as closely as possible to the wishes of the population. 

He also said that the part that remains after the Commission would be “subject to equal financial burdens as England”. Llyod George asked Griffith if he would refrain from repudiating it.  Griffith gave him this assurance.  

Llyod George also extracted an assurance from Griffith not to embarrass him at a major meeting of the National Unionist Association on November 17th in Liverpool by not repudiating him.    

Tom Jones quickly embodied Griffith’s undertaking in a short memorandum – see Nov-13-21/1.

Fanning says that “Llyod George was later to use [this memorandum] to devastating effect in the dying hours of the negotiations” - see Dec-05-21/3 

Comment

 

Macardle (1999), pgs 561-562; Curran J M (1980), pg 106; Fanning (2013), pg 296; Matthews (2004), pg 51; Kenny (2021), pgs 75-76

Nov-13-21/1

Jones shows Griffith a summary of the proposals he had agreed to with Llyod George the day before and Griffith verbally assented to them after quickly skimming the document.  (It would seem that Griffith did not mention this document to his colleagues in the delegation or to de Valera.) 

Matthews says that “Although the document confirmed that Northern Ireland would be subject to taxation if it opted out of a single Irish State, the Boundary Commission outlined in this memorandum was altogether different from the one he had now discussed with the British on several occasions.  As described here, the tribunal would ‘revise’ the Irish boundary and would ‘adjust the line by both inclusion and exclusion … That was a far cry from a commission set up to ‘delimit’ the six-county state”.

 

Phoenix comments that “through this stratagem Llyod George had effectively pre-empted any future attempt by the Irish delegates to stage a ‘break’ on the partition issue".  Chamberlain wrote to his wife that the document meant that the Irish would not break off negotiations over partition.

 

Curran J M (1980), pg 107; Phoenix (1994), pg 151; Matthews (2004), pg 52

Nov-14-21/1

At the GAA Louth county junior final between Boyne Rangers of Drogheda and Clan na Gaels from Dundalk, rival groups of IRA men pull weapons on each other twice during the game.

The Chief of the Republican Police in the area described it as “very discreditable to the national movement in the area”.

 

Hall (2019), pg 87

Nov-14-21/2

Llyod George writes to Craig reiterating his desire for an unconditional conference or, at least, engage in personal consultations with himself.  Llyod George also argued against Craig’s idea of establishing two Dominions in Ireland.  Craig replies on November 17th – see Nov-17-21/1.

Tom Jones writes in his diary that Llyod George told his colleagues that “we are after a settlement - that [is] our objective”. 

According to Matthews, Llyod George wanted a settlement because it would be turned “into a pretext for calling a general election.  This in turn could provide a springboard from which to launch his long-desired Centre Party.”.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 563; Curran (1980), pg 101; Matthews (2004), pg 41; Pakenham (1967), pg 172

Nov-14-21/3

In his diaries, Mark Sturgis refers to Fermanagh and Tyrone as the Alsace-Lorraine of the Irish Question.

 

Matthews (2004), pg 5

Nov-14-21/4

BA soldier, Cecil Barton, dies as a result of an accidental shooting in Co. Cavan.

O’Halpin and Ó Corráin (2020), pg 556

Nov-15-21/1

The Dáil cabinet approves the second external loan “to enable the Irish Republic to function, to preserve its integrity and to achieve its recognition”. Twenty million dollars was to be raised.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 565

Nov-15-21/2

Trial starts in Belfast of seven IRA men accused of abducting and holding as a prisoner a Protestant man called Arthur Hunt. 

The resultant publicity is very bad for IRA.

McDermott (2001), pgs 121-124

Nov-16-21/1

A group of Southern Unionists (Earl of Midleton, Dr Bernard (Provost of Trinity) & Andrew Johnson) meet with Griffith and he promises that he would recommend safeguards for their interests.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 564

Nov-16-21/2

British send a draft treaty to the Irish delegation. 

It offered dominion status (close to Canada but with special provisions).  Along with relatively uncontested trade, finances and security provisions, Northern Ireland could exclude itself within one year. If it did, a boundary commission would revise the current border in accordance with “the wishes of the inhabitants”. 

Also, if it did exclude itself “the provisions of the Government of Ireland Act, 1920 … shall continue to be of full force and effect”.  (According to Matthews, this meant that “the six counties would pay British rates of taxation and a proportion of imperial debt”.)

Griffith sends a copy to de Valera saying that he thought the terms should be rejected.  The British were informed that the Irish side would shortly submit counter proposals.  See Nov-22-21/1.

(Fanning says that the British document was “a reiteration of the restrictive reservations in their proposals of July 20th coupled with a formulation of what Llyod George had agreed with Griffith about Northern Ireland”.)

 

Curran J M (1980), pg 109; Fanning (2013), pg 299; Matthews (2004), pg 53; Pakenham (1967), pg 172

Nov-16-21/3

Brugha, as Minister of Defence, writes to Mulcahy, as IRA Chief-of-Staff, saying that there would be fresh commissions issued to officers and offers of re-enlistment to all ranks.  The reason he gave was that renewed fighting was a possibility and that it was necessary “to put the Army in an unequivocal position as the legal defence force of the Nation under the control of the Civil Government”. 

Before he accepted a fresh commission as Chief of Staff, Mulcahy wanted clarity on the issue of who had the power to make appointments to GHQ - that such appointments should not be “made against his judgement and without his concurrence”. 

Brugha replied that, while his advice would be considered, all appointments will be made by the “Cabinet on the recommendations of the Minister of Defence”. 

A meeting is called between Cabinet and GHQ to resolve this and related issues on November 25th – see Nov-16-21/4.

 

Townshend (2014), pg 329

Nov-17-21/1

Craig replies to Llyod George saying, once again, that Northern Ireland would not agree to come under an Irish national government.  He again requested dominion status for Northern Ireland. 

However, he did say that he would meet with Llyod George any time after November 21st.  However, Craig caught influenza and his meeting with Llyod George did not happen until some time after November 21st.

See Nov-29-21/2.

 

Macardle (1999), pgs 563; Curran J M (1980), pg 101; Pakenham (1967), pg 172

Nov-17-21/2

There is a large conference of unionists (and conservatives) from all over Great Britain and Ireland.  It takes place in Liverpool. 

A resolution denouncing the British Government for negotiating with Sinn Féin is defeated.  Salisbury reported that there was a “very strong desire to avoid civil war and a general wish not to break up the Irish Conference until everything had been tried to secure peace with honour”.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 564-565; Fanning (2013), pgs 298-299

Nov-17-21/3

De Valera writes to Griffith saying that it was time to send the British their final word and this could best be done by presenting Draft Treaty A suitably modified. 

 

Curran J M (1980), pg 109

Nov-17-21/4

At a ceremony in Dublin, de Valera is inaugurated as Chancellor of the National University of Ireland.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 566

Nov17-21/5

The Irish Bulletin publishes an internal memo from Lt Col Charles Wickham (RIC Commissioner) to all City and County heads of the USC proposing that ex-servicemen be brought into the USC to be used in a grave emergency.

 

McDermott (2001), pg 124

Nov-18-21/1

A circular from Tudor (Chief of Police) to his Deputy Inspector General, the Divisional Commissioner in Belfast, and the Commandant of the Auxiliary Division states that the RIC "stationed in the six counties will not be handed over at present but will be placed as from November 22nd at the disposal of the Northern Government".  See Nov-22-21/2.

The RIC and Special Constables were handed over but no mention is made of the Auxiliaries. 

Memo given in Abbott (2019), pgs 343-344.

 

Abbott (2000), pgs 269-270; Parkinson (2004), pg 90

Nov-18-21/2

Memorandum from Warren Fisher

In a memo to Austen Chamberlain and Llyod George, referring to the decision to declare Dáil Éireann (see Sep-10-19/1) and Sinn Féin illegal, Warren Fisher, Permanent Secretary to the British Treasury, writes “in the course of 1919 Lord French, Mr Macpherson, Sir John Taylor, Mr E. Saunderson … and Mr Watt had convinced themselves that the only cure for the (then) sporadic and infrequent exhibitions of force in Ireland was the total excommunication of Sinn Fein … The fact that Sinn Fein was a political creed … escaped the notice of these gentlemen.  They merely regarded it as a convertible term with the physical force faction … they decided that the Irish problem would be settled if the majority of the people in Ireland were forbidden to think, discuss, talk, write or speak the political views which they favoured. In high places in Ireland there were some – not many – of whom Sir Joseph Byrne [Inspector General of the RIC at the time and one of the few Catholics in ‘high places’] was one, who realised the full implications of ‘proclaiming’, that is proscribing in its entirety, a political creed.  No attention was paid to their warnings that such a procedure would reinforce indefinitely the physical force party, and would justify their methods as the only instrument left to them”. 

For background on Warren Fisher, see Apr-18-20/1 and May-12-20/1.

 

O’Halpin (1987), pg 190

Nov-19 to 20-21/1

According to Parkinson, riots break out in the east side of Belfast and in the York St area on November 19th

There are disturbances in the Ballymacarrett area the following day. 

See Nov-21 to 25-21/1.

 

Parkinson (2004), pg 168

Nov-20-21/1

Craig writes to Llyod George asking if Sinn Féin “was prepared to give allegiance to the Crown without reservation … or whether their consent to do so is still withheld and made dependent on your first having procured the consent of Ulster to an All-Ireland Parliament”.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 565

Nov-21 to 25-21/1

Major disturbances in Belfast

O’Halpin and Ó Corráin record 32 deaths in Belfast during this period caused by the riots and disturbances.  Seventeen were Protestants and fifteen were Catholics.  (One of the Protestants died from injuries received during the summer but another Protestant – not included in the 32 - dies on December 2nd from injuries that he received on November 23rd.)

Abbott says that, between November 19th and 25th, 27 people are killed in Belfast.

More Detail

 

Parkinson (2004), pgs 168-170; Abbott (2000), pgs 274-275; McDermott (2001), pgs 125-132; O’Halpin and Ó Corráin (2020), pgs 536-539 & 539-540; Parkinson (2020), pg 161

Nov-22-21/1

The Irish delegation in London send a new memorandum to the British delegation (in response to the British draft treaty of November 16th – see Nov-16-21/2). In effect, it is an outline treaty.  The full text of this memorandum is given as Appendix 18 in Macardle. It was mostly prepared by Childers but presented as Barton’s to avoid incurring Griffith’s wrath. 

With regards to Northern Ireland, the memorandum states “in the event of the existing legislature in the North East of Ireland accepting its position under the National Parliament, Ireland will confirm the legislature in its existing powers and will undertake to provide the safeguards designed to secure any special interests of the area over which it functions”,

 

Thomas Jones comes to meet Griffith and Collins in 22 Hans Place in the afternoon saying that the new memorandum had filled Llyod George with despair.

He says that he was to ask them “Are they in the Empire or are they out? Are we to control Naval defence or are we not?  … Where are the safeguards for Ulster?  Do they accept or do they not safeguards enumerated on Friday and of which Griffith made a note?”. 

Jones went on to say that if the memorandum was not withdrawn or explained away then Llyod George would have no option but to break off negotiations.  Griffith and Collins tell Jones that they would consider his messages with the rest of their delegation. 

See Nov-23-21/2.

 

Macardle (1999), pgs 568-569; Fanning (2013), pgs 300-301; Matthews (2004), pg 54

Nov-22-21/2

Responsibility for security, law and order and the administration of justice is transferred from Westminster to the Northern Ireland Government. 

In the previous weeks, a new Protestant paramilitary group – the Imperial Guards – appeared on the streets of Belfast.  It would appear that it was made up mainly of ex-BA soldiers and ex-UVF.   Craig was able to use their appearance to press the British government to bring back the USC.

 

McCluskey says that after the transfer of security powers, the NI Minister of Home Affairs, Dawson Bates, “virtually gave the USC [Ulster Special Constabulary] immunity from prosecution”. 

For the issue as to who would pay for the USC - see Dec-12-21/2.

 

Parkinson (2004), pg 169; McDermott (2001), pg 120 & 125; Grant (2018), pg 126; McCluskey (2014), pg 100; Phoenix (1994), pg 152

 

Nov-22-21/3

McCarthy says 45 IRA prisoners tunnel their way out of Kilkenny prison.  No attempt is made to re-capture them. (Walsh says 43 prisoners escaped and gives a detailed account of how they did it.)

 

McCarthy (2015), pg 80; Walsh (2018), pgs 135-141

Nov-23-21/1

Chamberlain talks to Bonar Law and explains the British delegation’s proposals. 

When Law is convinced that Ulster would not be forced under an All-Ireland parliament then he said he would advise Craig and Carson that they could not expect the British Government to fight to protect the six county boundary. 

It is clear, however, that Law thinks the Boundary Commission would only make minor modifications.

 

Curran J M (1980), pg 109 & 311

Nov-23-21/2

Fanning says that Llyod George, Birkenhead and Chamberlain met with Griffith, Collins and Barton in the morning in Downing St at which both sides pulled back from the brink of the previous day (see Nov-22-21/1) and there was a discussion which cleared the air.  (However, Fanning does not say what, if anything was agreed.)  See Nov-24-21/1.

Macardle says that at a conference of the Irish and British delegations, advance was made on the issues on trade and defence.  It would appear that these issues, as well as finance would not be impediments to an agreement.

According to Kenny, Griffith reported to de Valera on this day saying that “On Ulster … I had assured him [i.e. Llyod George] that I would not let him down … I said that I had given him that assurance and I now repeated it, but I told him that it was his proposal … not ours … He was satisfied. He had misunderstood us in this instance and said as much.”

Kenny says that this reference on November 23rd “to an earlier ‘assurance’ appears to be to their discussion of 12 November. As already seen, Griffith’s verbal assurance on that day, like his earlier written ‘personal assurances’ on 2 November, had been carefully qualified.”.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 572; Fanning (2013), pg 302; Kenny (2021), pg 76

Nov-23-21/3

William Cosgrave sends a rebuke to the Sinn Féin controlled Meath County council for firing a nurse, not for professional incompetence but for her Redmondite politics and snobbish attitude towards Sinn Féiners. 

According to Garvin, this is an example of Cosgrave seeing the need to accommodate non-Sinn Féin supporters in the new state.

 

Garvin (1996), pg 72

Nov-23-21/4

Tadgh Barry, C Company, 1st Battalion, Cork No. 1 Brigade, IRA and an Alderman on Cork City Council, who is a prisoner, is killed by a sentry in Ballykinlar Internment Camp in Co. Down.

(O’Farrell and O’Halpin & Ó Corráin say that this killing occurred on November 15th and McDermott says it was before November 17th.)

 

O'Kelly in The Kerryman (1955), pg 26; Gallagher (1953), pg 225; McDermott (2001), pg 124; O’Farrell (1997), pg 102; O’Halpin and Ó Corráin (2020), pgs 535-536

Nov-24-21/1

There is a conference of the Irish and British negotiators in the House of Lords with Birkenhead and (attorney general) Gordon Hewart on the British side and Griffith and Collins, accompanied by George Gavan Duffy and John Chartres, on the Irish side. 

The question of the Irish recognition of the Crown was discussed. The Irish delegates said that there could be no question of allegiance but they undertook to prepare a formula outlining the extent to which they would recognise the Crown. See Nov-25-21/4.

The Irish delegates returned to Dublin on the night of November 24th.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 572; Fanning (2013), pg 28

Nov-25-21/2

According to Macardle, violence breaks out in Belfast leading, over the next four days, to 26 people killed and 94 people injured.   [However, it is likely that Macardle has got the dates wrong for this outbreak of violence and it should have been November 21st for the outbreak of voilence– see Nov-21 to 25-21/1.]

Macardle says that the death toll from violence in Belfast since July 1st stands at 174.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 575

Nov-25-21/3

The Dáil orders the updating of the electoral register.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 565

Nov-25-21/4

Meeting between the Dáil Cabinet and IRA GHQ to try to resolve issue of who had the power to appoint members of GHQ Staff and related issues. (See Nov-16-21/3.) 

However, Eoin O’Duffy took shrill umbrage at what he seen as being demoted and replaced by Austen Stack as deputy chief of staff.

De Valera “rose excitedly in his chair … and declared in a half-scream, half-shout ‘ye may mutiny if ye like, but Ireland will give me another army’ and dismissed the whole lot of us from his sight.

 

The key issue was left unresolved.  In effect, the status quo ante remained but as Townshend says “de Valera’s use of the word ‘mutiny’ was ominous”.  Garvin notes that Griffith and Collins were not present for this meeting. 

Regan’s view of this meeting is insightful. He says that this meeting was an attempt by “de Valera’s revolutionary Dáil government” to “renegotiate its relationship with the IRA by issuing new commissions under its authority. … The resulting clash, on 25 November 1921, between the staff officers of IRA general headquarters and the civilian government’s authority prefigured later civil-military conflicts leading eventually to the civil war in June 1922. O’Duffy and de Valera ended the meeting shouting across a conference room at one another. … the defiance of government authority was, as de Valera claimed at the time, tantamount to mutiny.  O’Duffy may have spoken loudest, but he did not speak alone. The IRA cadre marching out with him formed the treatyite army’s elite in 1922, and was led by Collins.  Its relationship to civil authority remained unresolved, complex, and poisonous to any assumption that power would in future reside with the civilians rather than the soldiers.”

 

Townshend (2014), pg 330; Garvin (1996), pg 56; Ferriter (2021), pgs 89-90

Nov-28-21/1

A Memorandum on External Association is presented by the Irish delegation to the British. 

The formula read “Ireland will agree to be associated with the British Commonwealth for all purposes of common concern, including defence, peace and war, and political treaties, and to recognise the British Crown as Head of the Association as the symbol and accepted head of the combination of Associated States”.  See Nov-29-21/1

That evening at Chequers, Griffith and Duggan meet Llyod George, Birkenhead and Robert Horne (who was Chancellor of the Exchequer).  The British say that the Irish proposals are impossible.  Following discussion, the British agreed that functions of the “Crown in Ireland should be no more in practice than in Canada or any Dominion”. The Irish were invited to devise the formulation.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 573; Fanning (2013), pg 303

Nov-28-21/2

After British government decision to hand over responsibility for local government to Northern Ireland Ministry of Home Affairs (see Nov-22-21/2), Fermanagh and Tyrone County Councils pledges their allegiance to Dáil Eireann.  Eight smaller public bodies follow. 

On same day the NI Minister of Home Affairs, Dawson Bates, brings in a bill in the NI parliament which allowed him to dissolve any local authority.

See Dec-01-21/3.  

 

Macardle (1999), pg 574; Curran J M (1980), pg 102; Phoenix (1994), pgs 152-153; McCluskey (2014), pg 105

Nov-29-21/1

The British delegation meet at 3.00pm to discuss oath of allegiance.

At 4.00pm, Llyod George, Chamberlain and Birkenhead meet with Griffith, Collins and Duggan in Downing St and the British agree to put a phrase in the Treaty ensuring that the Crown should have no more authority in Ireland than in Canada.

 

The British delegation also tell Griffith that they intended to have their final proposals ready within a week and to send them to the Irish Delegation and Craig on December 6th.  Griffith got a promise that he would have them (informally) by December 1st. (He was to get them on the evening of November 30th.) 

He wrote to de Valera saying that he would come to Dublin on December 2nd and asked for a cabinet meeting on December 3rd.  He said “I shall return to Dublin on Friday morning [2nd December] and hope to see you that evening. Please have a cabinet meeting arranged for Saturday morning, when we shall be all there. I intend to return to London on that evening.”

(During this time Childers was writing reports for the Irish delegation analysing the position of the other Dominions especially Canada – he made unfavourable comparisons with what had already been conceded by the Irish delegation and this angered Griffith.)

 

Macardle (1999), pg 573; Kenny (2021), pg 83

Nov-29-21/2

After returning from London and talks with Llyod George, Craig says to the NI parliament that “By Tuesday next [6th December] either the negotiations [between the British and Irish delegations] will have broken down or the Prime Minister [Llyod George] will send me new proposals for consideration by the [NI] Cabinet. In the meantime the rights of Ulster will be in no way sacrificed or compromised.” 

 

Macardle (1999), pg 574; Curran J M (1980), pg 101; Kenny (2021), pg 83; Pakenham (1967), pg 172

Nov-29-21/3

A bomb is thrown into Keegan St, in the nationalist Markets area of Belfast, killing a Catholic Annie McNamara (48).

 

Parkinson (2004), pg 173; O’Halpin and Ó Corráin (2020), pg 539

Nov-30-21/1

Speaking to the Mid-Clare Brigade IRA, de Valera said “We are going to stand on the rock of truth and principle.  …. We know the terrorism, we know the savagery that can be used against us, and we defy it.” 

He had spent this week, along with Cathal Brugha, reviewing IRA contingents in Limerick, Galway and Clare.  Preparations were being made in case of a breakdown in the negotiations.

 

Macardle (1999), pg 575

Nov-30-21/2

A Protestant, Alexander Reid (48 or 61), is shot dead on his way to work on the Ormeau Road (or at the junction of Cromac and Catherine Streets) in Belfast.  The RIC think that this killing may have been in reprisal for the killing of Annie McNamara on November 29th.

 

Parkinson (2004), pg 173; O’Halpin and Ó Corráin (2020), pg 549

Nov-30-21/3

The Belfast Telegraph reports Craig as blaming Sinn Féin in the NI Parliament for the recent violence and informed them that 700 ‘A’ Specials and 5,000 ‘B’ Specials would be enrolled immediately. 

Around this time, Wickham, Divisional Commissioner of the RIC in the North, orders his men to regard the truce as non-existent.

 

McDermott (2001), pgs 140-141

 

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